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The warmist site SkepticalScience.com has even decided to exaggerate the NSIDC graph by putting an alarming curve through it.
In order to deny the claim that arctic ice is in decline you first need to find something wrong with the graph. Anything will do, but below I will run through all the things I found wrong with the graph. This is an indictment of both the NSIDC and SkepticalScience.com
First notice the Y-axis of the above NSIDC graph starts at four million. Yet everyone knows numbers start at zero, not four million! Even kids learn this in school. In technical speak, the NSIDC graph misleads people into thinking 4 million is the smallest integer. Hilariously the SkepticalScience.com graph has 3 million as the lowest y-axis value! The warmists can't make up their minds! If they can't agree on Y-axes how can they possibly predict the weather in 100 years time? Graph y-axes should always start at zero or else they will mislead people.
Lets correct the graph and remove that biased trend line at the same time:
What's next? Is there anything else in the graph above that we can bitterly complain about? Notice the y-axis reads "kilometers". That's interesting. Why is a US science body using a French measurement system? Perhaps it has no effect though. Perhaps the unit of measurement used in the graph has no bearing on the actual rate of sea ice decline. But we can't assume that's the case. Lets replace "square kilometers" with "square miles" instead and see what difference it makes:
Shocking. Compare the two graphs above. I wouldn't like to accuse the NSIDC and SkepticalScience.com of deliberate fraud, but is it just coincidence that the French system of kilometers shows faster sea ice decline than the US system of miles?
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There are two more problems with the graph though. Can you spot them?
The upper limit of the graph of 8.5 million square miles is wrong. The true upper limit should reflect the total surface area of the Earth which, assuming a round Earth, is roughly 200 million square miles (a flat Earth would be somewhat more but for now lets take a conservative estimate and assume mainstream science is right).
Graph modified so that y-axis reflects range of total surface area of the EarthThat's far more clear. Immediately I am having trouble seeing the sea ice. This is good. If you can't see it, it's not a problem.
The final correction is to do likewise with the x-axis. It is typical of warmists to omit the past even as they try to predict the future. Lets add in the full age span of the Earth:
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4. There is no information before 1979, because there is no measurements before 1979. And how does the amount of ice, say, 2000 years ago have anything to do with the fact that the ice cap is decreasing right now?
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I must point out, however, two things you missed: there were periods of rapid ice recovery in 1984, 1990, 1995 and 2007; and secondly, there are almost equal numbers of times when the ice went up from one year to the next, as when it went down. Simple statistics shows that we can expect a rebound in the ice at least four times in the next 20 years or so. Hardly a problem!
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